About the Fall: Why do Religion and Science Differ in Their Theory of the World
From paradise, that is. How would such an event be both possible within the realm of the physical, i.e. not merely a metaphorical description of something, and reconcilable with what we know of the universe we live in?
With such an event, one would postulate perhaps a radical change in the laws of physics or their effects, akin to a substance going from liquid to solid, a container being turned inside out, electricity animating some circuitry, or stopping to.
I have always been critical of those who would try and advance some scientific framework for religion, and am about to cross that boundary myself, yet there has to be a connection between the two somewhere, and this would be a good place to start speculating.
What physical concepts would one associate with a fallen state? Entropy comes to mind, any form of decay, and limits certainly, such as the speed of light. Wether any of this is relevant I am not prepared to wager on, but certainty is less important at this stage than inquiry.
Some more thoughts: The fall is a must, if we posit the truth of Jesus’ life and passion. Else, why would God not have created a perfect world in the first place? Only with free will, the fall, the redemption, do we have a coherent whole of Christian doctrine. No fall, no Christ, no God, no Heaven, and so on...
So, how does the fall fit in with big bang, evolution, the age of the universe?
First, one would have to posit it ‘before’ any of these other facts, and I don’t necessarily mean before in the time as we measure it scientifically. It might be an ‘outside’ of what science sees as the universe.
With such an event, one would postulate perhaps a radical change in the laws of physics or their effects, akin to a substance going from liquid to solid, a container being turned inside out, electricity animating some circuitry, or stopping to.
I have always been critical of those who would try and advance some scientific framework for religion, and am about to cross that boundary myself, yet there has to be a connection between the two somewhere, and this would be a good place to start speculating.
What physical concepts would one associate with a fallen state? Entropy comes to mind, any form of decay, and limits certainly, such as the speed of light. Wether any of this is relevant I am not prepared to wager on, but certainty is less important at this stage than inquiry.
Some more thoughts: The fall is a must, if we posit the truth of Jesus’ life and passion. Else, why would God not have created a perfect world in the first place? Only with free will, the fall, the redemption, do we have a coherent whole of Christian doctrine. No fall, no Christ, no God, no Heaven, and so on...
So, how does the fall fit in with big bang, evolution, the age of the universe?
First, one would have to posit it ‘before’ any of these other facts, and I don’t necessarily mean before in the time as we measure it scientifically. It might be an ‘outside’ of what science sees as the universe.
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